Photographers discussing the upcoming Nikon D400 have chided me for suggesting the Nikkor 18-105VR be a possible kit lens over other possibilities. Due to their insistence I tried the 16-85 VR Nikkor and think that their suggestion was far better than mine. The Nikkor 16-85 VR is a better kit lens as then the growing number of very satisfied Nikkor 70-300 VR owners can add the D400 to their growing number of Nikons AND usable lens. I own and use the 18-200VR and use it less since I bought the 70-300VR. The old 70-300 D Nikkor lens has actually produced some of my most valued wildlife images. To get that rare really great shot you have to be in the right place at the right time. Starting with a new camera with great added features does improve my odds. Features on the D90 may contribute to virtually the same shot taken with D300 once in awhile looking like the D90 handled that shot a little better. The Active Lighting feature on the D90 is somewhat more advanced than the D300! When the D400 comes out it will hopefully set a new standard in DX DSLR cameras. Based on the D300 stellar performance that seems likely. Addition of video 1080 p using the tougher build of the D300 and upping the mega-pixels to a sensible level will be added. Yet it is a better deal to add a kit lens which we'd like to add to our gear that would really bring something to the party. That is where the 16-85VR could really help boost sales. By most accounts it outshines the 18-105 VR and the 18-200 VR!